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ISI time to kidnap him (and ice altaf just for lols )
Mossad and the Nigerian government collaborated once to kidnap a self-exiled politician from UK I think.
Mossad and ISI are a couple who loves each other to bits but can never get married btw
Their greatest hits featuring gun running of captured Soviet equipment from Arab-Isreali wars to arm Afghans
What do you mean?
There is a huge respect(for the lack of a better word) among all big agencies coz they very rightfully think no one from the outside can understand the hows and whys of their work .
That is one of the better descriptions I have heard.
Kidnap?? Why waste the time simple headshot. He has proven his guilty by not returning to Pakistan so must be punished.
Now you know where the Rs. 480 billion in circular debt payment went. Customer ko koi naraz thori karta hai?
Smh, the west with its double standards
You think that's double standard?
The Dutch government was just exposed for on one hand arresting/nabbing/killing terrorists in Syria but then found out they had been financing them too.
Lol the US's favourite past time, fund terrorist as freedom fighters initially then turn on them and let them wreck shit and blame it on 3rd world countries foe not controlling said groups they created. It's annoying how every country is scared of calling the US out on this bullshit
Can you link a source for this?
Did anyone even read the news?
They just refused to debate this issue in lower house and they explained the rationale behind it as well.
Britain wants to set terms for his return, they want to get some benefits too.
UK's constitution does not allow extradition of people who are going to face torture or not be granted their human rights. It is very easy for someone to argue that when the country is Pakistan. Which is why it is the destination of many of our criminals.
In Ishaq Dar's case he can can argue that that he will not be given treated unfairly given the PTI government but this argument is weak and will most likely fail. However, he can argue that Pakistan's judicial system is weak and easily influenced and he won't be treated fairly.
So even if there was an extradition treaty between our nations it would be very difficult to bring him back.
Counter argument is easy. Nawaz Sharif has been arrested for similar crimes and one can draw many parallels between the two. No case of torture or unfairness. Therefore Dar can expect the same treatment since he has no basis to expect anything else.
Also, I am quite sure that UK doesn’t grant indefinite stay visas so at some point the clock will run out on his stay. I guess the smart thing to do for him would be to simply invest in some country like Portugal and get citizenship. The ethical thing to do would be to face punishment but it’s not like we can expect ethics from scum.
Counter argument is easy.
It isn't. You can't argue against human rights infringements.
Nawaz Sharif has been arrested for similar crimes and one can draw many parallels between the two.
Not really both their cases are highly different. They are related but very different. Secondly, NS enjoys popular support of the people which Isha Dar does not.
No case of torture or unfairness
I don't think you've followed the case. Plese read about how many times NAB has been fined during the hearings because of their dirty tactics. They are acting as if they are a private party and doing every thing in the book to delay the case. Justice Ather Minullah has berated them for this constantly and even went as far to say that he'd give his decision regardless of what NAB does, were it not for Kulsoom Nawaz's death.
Therefore Dar can expect the same treatment since he has no basis to expect anything else.
UK has higher standards with regards to basic rights. If Dar can expect the same treatment then we can expect him to stay there.
UK doesn’t grant indefinite stay visas so at some point the clock will run out on his stay.
They may not but it isn't difficult to get a renewal when your reason is that if you are sent back you may be mistreated.
I guess the smart thing to do for him would be to simply invest in some country like Portugal and get citizenship.
He's already doing the smart thing, you just aren't accepting that.
The ethical thing to do would be to face punishment but it’s not like we can expect ethics from scum.
I wouldn't bring ethics and morals into this, no one wants to face jail. Which is why I like German laws where you are not penalized for avoiding jail or escaping from jail because freedom is in the human nature.
Dar can be a Pakistani citizen, that doesn't mean the UK has to force him to go bacmmk if his visa is in order.
Dar can continue living there.
The Pak govt can force the UK to not extend Dar's visa thats all.
So the petition was launched by some "social media activist" and carried 80,000 signatures (now the DG ISPR should know where these fake accounts come from). The British Government rejected the petition deeming the allegations false and defamatory. It also said that while there was no extradition treaty between the two countries, special circumstances do warrant extradition of certain people. For that, the GoP will have to officially approach the British Government.
PS: No wonder why I find ARY so intellectually dishonest. Not even once they gave a hint that it was an online petition.
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